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rice, susan rice, and they never discussed it with him. james rosen joins us live now with more. james? >> good afternoon. already we are learning the contents of sensitive documents never quoted before and we heard one of the most detailed and emotionally charged accounts of benghazi yet to surface, from mark thompson who manual -- handled it, we have an e-mail he sent to a high ranking state department operations officer disclosing the f.b.i. had recommended a foreign emergency support team be sent to libya. but that under secretary of state patrick kennedy advised against that to the white house. they say it could not have arrived in time of the also, one law maker read from a previously undisclosed e-mail that was sent to top aides to then secretary of state clinton, by beth jones, the acting atant secretary of state for the middle east, in which jones recounted her direct conversation with the libyan ambassador. >> this was sent on september 12, the day after benghazi and several days before ambassador rice's television appearance and i'll continue, when he said his government sus
susan rice. she blamed this attack on a video. in fact, she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. and i was embarrassed. >> joining the panel this week, "wall street journal" columnist and deputy editor dan hanniger, foreign affairs columnist bret stevens, and political diary editor jason riley. dan, what's the single most important takeaway you had from this hearing? >> i guess, paul, it is that there is such a vast distance between what gregory hicks described as happening that night and what the administration described for a week. what gregory hicks described was an intense fightfight in benghazi lasting all night involving heavy weaponry. that's september 11. on september 13, jay carney attributes it this california youtube video. five days later, susan rice goes on television and says the same thing. and in fact, on the following tuesday, september 18, jay carney is still attributing this to a youtube video. why was the obama administration trying to suppress the events that gregory hicks -- >> your conclusion is based on h
shows and ambassador susan rice. she blamed this attack on a video. in fact, she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. and i was embarrassed. >> though the committee's top democrat criticized darrell issa and his intentions. >> let me be clear, i am not questioning the motives of our witnesses. i am questioning the motives of those who want to use their statements for political purposes. >> late this afternoon congressman chaffetz asked hicks if the u.s. asked permission of the libyans to fly a military mission in its air space. hicks said no, but that he believed the libyans would have granted it. >> bret: mike emmanuel, thank you. there was particular focus today on the now infamous sunday talk show marathon by susan rice. you heard mike mention it. james rosen has that part of the story and more. >> every piece of information that we get and as we got it, we laid it out for the american people. >> if any administration official, including any career official had been on television on sunday, september 16, they would have said
-mails. >> we learned that on september 12th, the day after the attacks and four days before susan rice's tv appearances, a senior state department official e-mailed her superiors to relay that the libyan ambassador -- she had told the libyan ambassador that the attack was conducted by islamic terrorists. the state department would not allow our committees to keep copies of this e-mail when it was reviewed. >> an initial report blamed the attack on demonstrators, they were angry over this anti-islamic youtube video. well, the current top diplomat in libya, gregory hicks, testified on tuesday there was no demonstration, that there was an early report even that the attack was coordinated by islamic terrorists. >> jim acosta joins us now. jim, have you got news for us on these e-mails, the benghazi e-mails? >> that's right. we have confirmed through congressional sources, suzanne and michael, that these talking points were changed by various administration officials. if you look at some e-mail exchanges that were going on a few days after those attacks on benghazi and the attack in cairo on sep
infamous sunday talk show marathon by susan rice. you heard mike mention it. james rosen has that part of the story and more. >> every piece of information that we get and as we got it, we laid it out for the american people. >> if any administration official, including any career official had been on television on sunday, september 16, they would have said the same thing that ambassador rice said. >> those statements about what the obama administration knew when susan rice appeared on the sunday shows of september 16 came under fresh assault. >> did you report to anyone in washington within the first couple of days that there was anything in connection, a protest in connection to a youtube video? >> no. the only report that our mission made through every channel was that there had been an attack on a consulate. >> not a protest? >> no protest. >> further evidence that mr. obama's aides knew rice's narrative was false came when a gop law maker read from a previously undisclosed e-mail that beth jones, acting assistant secretary of state for the middle east, sent on september 12 about h
on the attack. this was used as u.n ambassador susan rice's talking points when she went on five sunday talk shows the sunday after the terror ambush. doug mcelway has the latest from washington now. >> afternoon, kelly. a tough day for jay carney. for the first time since the benghazi attack happened, the white house press corp, not just fox, ganged up on carney who is struggling to find answers to yesterday's abc news report that 12 revisions were made in the benghazi talking points. first issued by the cia. the first draft said, and we quote, we do know they participated in the attack. the final draft after the 12 revisions which susan rice delivered on the five talk shows made no mention of al-qaeda. her remarks attributing it to an anti-islam film was not true given what the cia knew. shear one of carney's attempts to explain that. >> we knew that -- we believed based on the intelligence assessment ks stream mists were involved, and there was suspicions about what affiliation the extreme mythses might have of the there was not hard, concrete evidence. >> one of the people now at the cen
-in-law. before it maids its way to ambassador susan rice for her to use on the sunday talk shows after the terror attack. that is the latest wring kel on that. this is significant. good morning bill hemmer. big welcome back to you. martha: good morn, i'm martha maccallum. abc news is reporting 12 different versions of the talking points and they were extensively he had had along the way and really scrubbed of any reference to terrorism and all back up to the sunday programs. the white house said repeatedly they were put together by the intelligence community, those talking points but this development is showing a very different scenario. you may remember that when former secretary of state hillary clinton testified, and reported heatedly what difference did it make, we'll have answers. bill: elizabeth prann is in washington. what can you tell us about this. >> reporter: those edits according to abc news before ambassador susan rice went on the five sunday talk shows. edits reportedly removing any reference of al qaeda or reference to ansar al-sharia. also deleted. cia warnings about threats azi m
. it says the c.i.a. talking points used by susan rice were revised by the state department to remove any references to terrorism. carnie discusses the acknowledge by the i.r.s. that they unfairly audited groups for their tax status. his briefing is about an hour. >> good friday afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. thank you for being here. i appreciate your patience. before i take your questions i want to note because it has been reported we did as many of you know, have a background briefing here earlier at the white house. i think 14 news organization were represented from online, print and the like. we do those periodically. we hope that the participants find them helpful. no one here thinks that is a substitute for this briefing that is why i'm here to take questions and with that i will go to the associated press. >> thanks, jay. two subjects starting out with the i.r.s. issue. i.r.s. says they flag conservative name -- groups. [unintelligible] when did the white house become aware that the i.r.s. engaged in this? in a tax collection system that relies on trust, do you think e i.r.s.'s
learned hicks was never contacted by the investor of the united nations, susan rice, or her staff before she went on five different sunday morning talk shows to deliver false talking points regarding a so-called protest sparked by an anti-islam video. said everybody on the ground that day was aware "from the get go" that it was a terrorist attack did >> so fast-forward to the sunday talk shows and investor susan rice did she blames his attack on a video, in fact she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped, and i was embarrassed. >> did she talk to you before she went on the five sunday talk shows? >> no, sir. >> you were the highest-ranking official in libya at the time, correct? >> yes, sir. >> she did not bother to have a conversation with you before she went on national television? >> no, sir. lou: hicks added the president of libya was furious after the ambassador raised appearances because he went on those same sunday talk shows, he described the attack as a preplanned terratec did according to hicks, he felt embarrassed and dela
as the president as a tough leader in the war on terror. susan rice went on talk shows supporting the claim that an anti-video protest had gotten out of hand. >> she blamed this attack on a video, and in fact she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. and i was embarrassed. >> john: but none of the witnesses said much of anything about the so-called cover up that inflames fox and it's friends. the partisan nature of the hearing was in nature for democrats including maryland representative elijah cummings. >> for those who want to use their statements for political purposes. >> john: i'm pleased to be joined by eleanor holmes norton who represents the district of columbia and took part in today's hearing. thank you for joining us. >> good evening. >> john: what did you expect from this hearing today? >> i have to tell you it's over the top four of five days with everything but trailers. i really had every reason to expect any revelation the likes of which we could not possibly imagine. but as i speak i'm having a hard time pinpointing a
forward, mr. hicks, to the sunday talk shows and ambassador susan rice. she blamed this attack on a individualsio. in fact, she did it five different times. whatwhat was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. >> bill: brutal testimony today about how the obama administration mishandled the attack on our ambassador to libya. and three other americans who were murdered in benghazi. a key question. why did washington refuse to send help? >> i notified my leadership that we needed to go forward. when told that it was not the right time. >> bill: another key question. did president obama and secretary of state clinton do anything wrong? >> did she ask you about the cause of the attack? >> i don't recall that being part of the conversation. will. >> bill: tonight. we have straight talk about benghazi. also, upcoming on the factor, there is a verdict in the jodi arias murder trial. >> guilty. >> bill: and the latest on that horrendous kidnapping in cleveland. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly
specifically for a set of talking points that ambassador susan rice used on the sunday shows that did not call the attacks terrorism. >> what i think is sad is how many people are around the administration including the former secretary of state, secretary clinton, knew this to be the case and allowed this to move forward any way. you would have hoped people would have stood up and said this is wrong. the american people deserve the truth. that didn't happen. >> senator marco rubio continues to focus on those talking points. congressman darrell issa put out a release with all of his questions. joining me now, democratic strategist and a republican strategist. john, we watched this play out. it was dramatic at times emotional. were there any big revelations? >> i think there were. the fact that we're talking about this the next morning after one of the biggest news days i've ever seen with the arias thing and the thing in cleveland and we're talking about this because there's real news that broke. the fact that cheryl mills who was bill clinton's impeachment lawyer was sent to stifle these whis
challenged susan rice's assessment that it was a video because everybody in the state department knew the day after -- actually the day of it was terrorism. >>gretchen: that was apparently the first bad review he received on the job, which makes it suspicious to say the least. yesterday jay carney, spokesperson for the president, called the rearranging of the talking points stylistic changes. you be the judge on that. many unanswered questions. >> more trouble for carnival cruises this morning. after two passengers are reported missing, a search began after the carnival spirit docked in sydney, australia. reports say a 30-year-old man and 26-year-old woman may have fallen overboard. this comes as the carnival triumph set sail for the bahamas. it will undergo more repairs after breaking down in mexico. the newly revamped carnival sunshine having problems with cabins and still had unfinished deck work after setting sail. >> a search for a man who went missing in michigan. police confirm jessica heeringa's blood was found at the scene. last week they released this video showing a van believed to
. >> susan rice blamed his attack on a video, she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped and i was embarrassed. >> did she talk to you before she went on the five sunday talk shows? >> no, sir. >> you were the highest ranking official in libya at the time, correct? >> yes, sir. >> and she did not bother to have a conversation with you before she went on national television. >> no, sir. bill: that was just part of it. congressman tray guidey i -- coy gowdy is with me now. i think what a lot of viewers want to know is where this goes next. what's the answer to that? >> we need more hearings. we need more eye wh -- need mors accounts. people actually on the ground and have first-hand accounts. that's what we need to hear from. we need evidence. bill: who next comes before your committee? >> it depend on which one you are most interested in. jason chaffetz pursued questions on not to pursue assets. i pursued susan rice. i would love to have susan rice under oath to ask if she was just negligent or intentionally wrong. we have the military com
he was reassigned after he questioned what susan rice told america on the sunday talk shows to a low level desk job. he did not believe what she told us and now we know he had cause for his concerns and now he has been demoted. our own james rosen presented the state department or pressed, i should say, the state department ahead of mr. hicks' testimony, listen to this exchange from monday. >> are greg hicks and mark thompson credible people? are they not long-standing career state department employees? are they credible? >> again, i'm not going to assess one individual or another. these are some folks who have said they are going to come out and tell a tore to congress and our message -- let me finish, let me finish. >> do they still work here. >> our message we have always encouraged state department employees who want to tell their personal story whether to the arb or congress to tell the truth. >> have they had distinguished careers, sir? >> again, i'm not in a place to assess their bios and work experience. these are people who work inside the state department. >> megyn: greg wh
that led to susan rice's appearance on six sunday shows after the benghazi attacks. and then before that, the arb, the independent panel report that the administration points to about benghazi. this is the head, of course, of the hearings up on capitol hill. greg hicks was the number 2 man on the ground in libya. he became chief of mission after ambassador stevens died. he will be one of the whistle blowers who testifies. also, mark thompson, a former marine who is part of the counter terrorism bureau. he alleges, according to fox news reporting, james rosen, our chief washington correspondent that secretary clinton and the under secretary of state, patrick kennedy tried to cut the department's counter terrorism bureau out of the chain of reporting and decision-making after benghazi. we are back with the panel. james, we should point out, as well as steve, you have done some great reporting on this in the past few days. what do we make of all of these things? i mean, these are big developments ahead of this wednesday hearing. >> they are. i think that's really, in some ways, the story. c
susan rice says it couldn't have been true, how did they do it? his statements were unwanted and ever since then it has been even harder on him. >> another whistleblower is mark tomb sob who worked in the counter-terrorism bureau. thompson claims secretary of state hillary clinton was trying to marginalize his role and response and decision making involved in benghazi. former counter-terrorism chief daniel benjamin said quote i ran the bureau then and i can say now with certainty as former coordinator for counter-terrorism that this charge is untrue. at no time was the bureau side lined or kept from carrying out its path. >> elijah cummings from maryland says the republican members are leaking information to stir up publicity ahead of tom's he -- tomorrow's hearing. ice saw's motivation appear to be quote political. >> regardless hicks said his jaw hit the floor when he heard what ambassador wrig-- ambassador ri said. >> they know what's responsible for the deadly explosion in tech as. one question remains. >> do you know what you are getting your mom for mother's day, maybe what your
their october that day and afterwards. one of the big questions, why did not susan rice call it a terror attack after that day. listen. >> what happened initially it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video that people gathered outside the embassy. then it grew very violent. >> fast forward, mr. hicks, to the sunday talk shows and ambassador susan rice. she blamed it on a video, she did five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. i was embarrased. >> dana: greg, you were watching the testimony earlier today, what do you think? >>. >> greg: i have to say media, is president obama's scandal condom. nothing gets through. they catch a break no matter what. hillary should put charles ramsey on her ticket. bob, you said, it is incredible, an amazing story you have the democrats in these hearings carrying more water an fleet of camels. you have media, they see something like this. oh, my god a trial. we have to follow the trial. there is a kidnapping. this is a news story. i guess we can call it, if we had
, to the sunday talk shows and ambassador susan rice, she blamed the attack on the video, in fact she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. i was embarrassed. >> did she talk to you before she went on the five sunday talk shows. >> no, sir. >> you were the highest-ranking official in libya at the time, correct. >> yes, sir? and she did not bother to have a conversation with you before she went on national television? >> no, sir. >> when ambassador stevens talked to you perhaps minutes before he died, as a dying declaration, what precisely did he say to you? >> he said, greg, we're under attack. >> did he mention one word about a protest or a demonstration? >> know he did not. >> at about 3:00 a.m. i received a call from the prime minister of libya. i think it's the saddest phone call i've ever had in my life. he told me that ambassador stevens had passed away. >> incredible testimony. earlier the white house was asked to react to today's hearing. let's take a look at this. >> it is our view, and it is a simple fact, that from the early hour
on september 11th, 2012. >> susan rice originally suggested it was sparked by protesters online video mocking the prophet muhammad. >> so fast forward, mr. hicks, to the sunday talk shows and ambassador suture rice. she blamed this attack on a video. in fact, she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. and i was embarrassed. >> hicks, who served as ambassador stevens second in command said he was demoted for questioning the administration's actions. he referenced an angry phone call he received from the chief of staff to then secretary of state hillary clinton who, according to him, was upset that he spoke with a republican congressman without a state department lawyer present at the meeting. >> what did she have to say to you? >> she demanded a report on the visit. >> was she upset by the fact this lawyer -- this -- >> was upset. >> this baby-sitter was not allowed to happen? was sheup set about that fact? >> she was very upset. >> this goes right to the person next to secretary clinton, is that accurate? >> yes, sir. >> here is a guy wi
12th the day after the attack and four days before susan rice's tv appearance, a senior state department official emailed her superiors to relay that the libbian ambassador -- she had told the libbian ambassador that the attack was conducted by islamic terrorists. the state department would not allow our commit tease to keep copies of this email when it was reviewed, and i would call on the president to order the state department to release this email so that the american people can see it. >> michael: so he's asking again to see the emails that were already released on the same day that he is calling for the 36th vote on repealing obamacare. this is a guy who just wants to keep hammering things home. it is the law of the land on obamacare, it has already been seen on these emails. we're going to get a little help on dissecting this from joe williams and jack burkman who hosts "behind the curtain with jack burkman." >> you got it. >> michael: jack i want to hear your take because we rarely agree, but this -- this jack is totally about politics. this isn't a
the talking points were being crafted for ambassador susan rice when she appeared on television. >> let me interrupt you. initially the talking points were being crafted -- >> any members. >> the house members. post petraeus briefings, what are we going to say when we come out. from the get-go victoria nuland was told you can only go out and say the fbi is investigating. she's at the podium saying it's under investigation, we can't say anything more. dutch rupersberger says we need to have something to say when we come out of this briefing with petraeus. they work on the talking points long before it was decided susan rice would go on camera. >> they completed them before she appeared on television but lawmakers who had been in classified settings wanted to talk appropriately what they could say. that is the genesis of the talking points. there were 12 iterations of the talking points. change from one was a word change, moving a word around, but from point a to the end there were significant changes. the orange talking points included descriptions of past warnings of other events that they
susan rice helped deliver to the world. abc news also reporting there are 12 -- count them -- 12 different versions of the talking points and edits. they were edits extensively. of course, this week, lawmakers held hearings on capitol hill about the attack. the republicans' main question, could the administration have sent backup to assist the diplomatic teams in libya and there is a coverup of those events? james rosen is live from washington, dc with more. hi, james. >> greg, good afternoon. the abc news report you mentioned builds on reporting of the weekly standard, and an early cia draft of these talking points stated, and i quote, the agency has produced anymore rouse pieces on the threat of extremist links to al qaeda in benghazi in eastern libya. there have been at laos five other attacks against foreign interests in benghazi including the june attack against the british ambassador's convoy. all that raised red flags for state department spokeswoman victoria newland who dashed off an e-mail to her enter agency colleagues saying, quote, the early cia draft could be abused
everybody could be speaking from the same script, susan rice included, that these benghazi attacks were not an act of terror, and the cia originally claimed that was scrubbed clean. >> it's encouraging to see the main stream media finally get set up -- get up with the obama administration's lies. this is patently a fundamentally corrupt administration. as far as benghazi goes, how many smoking guns does it take? we have an arsenal of smoking guns and the poor congressman trying to defend the administration, tap dances, et cetera. >> neil: he pointed out, if true, obviously it would be troubling. but he said if not true. at it hard to prove these thing but if they come to late, then what? >> it is proven. we heard the testimony on wednesday. we have the 12 changes unveiled today. neil, it's important now that the media doesn't get what i call target lock just on these 12 changes and victoria newland and her scandalous behavior. the question is now about the original talking point. i want to know if the white house had already influenced and shaped and add or deletes things from the cia t
house did nothing wrong and susan rice did nothing wrong and the generated by republicans for political reasons. that's his story and as they say he is sticking to it abc news is reporting that there were 12 different versions of talking points on benghazi. and the final version put out to the public eliminated references to al qaeda and affiliate terrorist organizations. mr. carney said that the white house involvement in those revisions was very minor. plying the state department under hillary clinton was the primary editing force. the state says they didn't want to highlight al qaeda involvement because it might impede the investigation. a fairly incredible assertion. what jay carney attempted to do today was convince the world that there was initial confusion about who attacked the american ambassador and killed him and that the white house was acting responsibly in avoiding placing direct blame. the fact remains that ambassador rice did place blame for the attack on the anti-islamic video released in the u.s.a. that was her primary focus. so summing up, no admission of wrongdoing b
contacted by u.n. ambassador susan rice before she went on five separate sunday morning talk shows to deliver what turned out to bealse talking points on the protest sparked by an anti-islam video. hicks said everyone on the ground that day was aware from the get-go, he put it, tha it was a terrorist attack. >> so fast-forward, mr. hicks, to the sunday talk shows and ambassador susan rice. she blamed this attack on a video. in fact, s did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw drpped. and i was embarrassed. >> did she talk to you before she went on the five sunday talk shows? >> no, sir. >> you were the highest rankin official in libya at the time, correct? >> yes, sir. >> and she did not bother to have a conversation with you before she went on national television? >> no, si >> hicks added that the president of libya was furious after the ambassador rice appearances because he went on those same sunday talk shows and he described the attack as a preplanned terror attack. according to hicks, mohamed al magraf felt embarrassed and delayed t
it included what happened on the sunday talk shows after benghazi that featured u.n. ambassador susan rice. the focus for once was actually more on what happened that night when the american ambassador and three others were murdered in libya. >> later, when i heard that the situation had evolved to them going to a safe haven, and then the fact that we could not find the ambassador, i alerted my leadership, indicating that we needed to go forward and consider the deployment of the foreign emergency support team. i notified the white house of my idea, they indicated that meetings had already taken place that evening, that had taken fest out of the menu of options. i called the office within the state department that had been represented there, asking them why it had been taken off the table and was told that it was not the right time, and it was not the team that needed to go right then. >> what clearly emerged in the testimony is that in washington, the state department and the white house recognized the severity of the problem all along and were intently focused on the action in benghazi.
points we were discussing months ago surrounding susan rice, ambassador susan rice. >> well, martin, we covered this earlier in the week. we explained what we knew from what had leaked from those so-called whistleblowers' testimony wasn't any revelation. right wing media beat us up over that particular story. you're right. here we are again. i still wish -- maybe you or karen could answer this for me. what has been covered up here? what is the evidence or where is this striking evidence there's been some kind of cover-up about what happened? i mean, we now know what happened, how it happened, how it unfolded. maybe there was miscues in communication or too much ed editing in the talking points. but is there some kind of elaborate and deliberate attempt on the part of members of the obama administration or the state department to cover up the information surrounding this particular attack? can someone please just tell me, what is the evidence for why we're having this conversation? >> professor peterson, when jason chaffetz was asked that question on fox news, specifically, what is the c
and tyrone woods who were murdered on september 11th, 2012. >> after the attack, susan rice originally suggested the assault was sparked by protesting. diplomat gregory hicks says he was floored by that explanation. >> so fast forward, mr. hicks, to the talk shows that ambassador susan rice, she blamed this attack on the video. she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. and i was embarrassed. >> hicks who served as ambassador stephen's second in command said effectively demoted for questioning the administration's actions. he referenced an angry phone call he received from the chief of staff to then secretary of state hillary clinton according to him was upset that he spoke with a republican congressman without a state department lawyer present. the state department denies claims that mr. hicks faced retaliation for speaking out. for the congressmen, the tone of the hearing and focus on miss clinton pointed to a political agenda. >> what we have seen over the past two weeks is a full scale media campaign that is not designed to in
at the center of the controversy who called for the alteration of the now susan rice slavish benghazi talking points and why and white house responded to the charges with a series of denials of the contentious press briefing today. also with the internal revenue service issued a highly unusual and troubling confession an apology not only a further embarrassment to this white house but will result in more congressional investigations of the obama administration conduct and political a station of the government. new reports today showed the highly specific intelligence that might have thwarted the boston marathon bombings were ignored by federal and agencies and tear on fox business network is real-estate day i am joined by the chairman and ceo of one of the biggest names in the business to give us his take of the housing recovery and how to do drive growth in the real-estate sector. we begin with more revelations of the benghazi attack in a white hot -- warehouse withholding information from the public. abc news reports the talking points provided touse susan rice for hurt talk show appearance
of them, clinton, susan rice for obvious reasons, victoria newland who says my leadership is not satisfied and congress will use this al-qaeda information against us. shiarls mills is a fierce defender of clinton. beth jones was the one who knew it was al-qaeda and omitted that from the talking points, as well. general petraeus who was frustrated and voiced as much in an email, why are you editing my talking points. carney who laid from the onset who said the talking points were from the intelligence community and ben rose who responded to victoria's concerns said they were valid and they would be resolved. next day new messages went right to susan rice. >> kimberly: greg, your picture is conspicuously absent. >> greg: dismissed a cover-up while having an off the record discussion or briefing about a cover-up is the night you have a deny you have a drinking problem by doing shots of tequila. carney got soaked. 12 versions of talking points. is that not a memo, that is a harlem shake. carney used to be a reporter. the transformation from truth seeker to a truth hider is stunning and makes a
. >>> so fast forward, mr. hicks, to the sunday talk shows and ambassador susan rice. she blamed this attack on a video. in fact, she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. and i was embarrassed. >> members of congress hearing testimony from witnesses who had firsthand knowledge of the attacks on our u.s. facilities in benghazi, libya, last september. the details they gave considered damaging to some in the state department and the white house. but starting with the coverage of these hearings, jim, the accusations in the media seem to parrot the usual line that these were -- well, the a.p. labeled them gop hearings to push an agenda designed to smear the president and maybe hillary clinton. >> right. and the "washington post" referred to people worried about the story as chick-fil-a eaters which i guess is the new code for white middle class. however, as peggy noonan said in her column, in spite of the best druthers of the mainstream media, this story has punched through. they've punched through in the person of gregory hick
broke down in the sis tem. we don't care about the memo that was changed and what susan rice said, we care about why we left four americans on their own. it is a message to every man and women in the future that we put in harm's way, if you get in a tight spot, we'll not get you. william sherman said to grant in a letter in 1864 i know if i got in a tight spot you would come. that is a national eths on. >> i understand there is a lot of anger in the military and intelligence community foaling they were blamed from the rewrite of the memos. will they break their silence and come tell the store tore because they would to preserve their honor and dignity and the cia guys, i respect them. they put their lives on the line and they don't get an opportunity to tell the families what they have done. will they tart breaking and telling their stories? >> i think the next set of hearings will bring in the military people and cia people and ask the questions like you asked. i am tired of seeing the cia get beat up. they live under such a cloud of secrecy. and they are good people and honorable pe
was murder that had night. representative darrell issa says the white house, susan rice continued to say the incident was response to propaganda video. president of libya said the attack had trace of a planned assault. >> challenge we have right now we are being told that this may have been a protested when in fact clearly all evidence we have should have been, no, the ambassador before he was killed believed he was under attack. everyone working in the mission both in benghazi and in tripoli believed it was an attack. the president of libya believed it was premeditated attack. >> two other men who claimed to know what happened will come forward on wednesday. former marine and deputy coordinator in state department, mark thompson as well as security officer based in tripoli eric nordstrom. we have heard from him before. he has testified that congress, he thought the consulate needed more security and the state department told him no. >> heather: thank you. the upcoming testimony seting the stage for what could be a bruising battle on capitol hill. later in the hour, our political panel w
. not like you go out for happy hour. you have to get ready. that was big one. remember ambassador susan rice was chosen as the one to go out to do all the sunday shows and you get the talking points on the friday night. they go through an interagency clearance process. what surprises me about this is that you see communications people, victoria nuland at the state department saying to the group, these will not pass muster with my leadership. revise, because we don't want the state department to look back. >> megyn: let me just jump in and tell the viewers what the original draft was saying that came from the intel people. i've got sort of the red line copy and the black line copy shows what was crossed out after state raised an objection. victoria nuland on behalf of her boss. this is what they took out, this is what we were supposed to be telling susan rice to tell the world, but we didn't. on 10 september, agency notified embassiy cairo of social agency reports calling for a demonstration and uncouraging jihaddists, stricken. the agency produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists
that this was trouble. i don't think it was an accident that susan rice, the u.n. ambassador who was kind of an unusual choice, was the person who went out on the sunday shows to recite those talking points. i think then secretary clinton knew that the talking points were shaky. she may have participated in making them shaky, but she did not want any o of that mud on hr shoes that might be caused. susan rice, of course, has paid a price for being the one who recited them. we also know, as you suggest, victoria newland, a state department spokeswoman, with a involved in the crafting of the talking points. she reports directly or indirectly to hillary clinton. she said my building, that means hillary clinton's state department, had a problem with this or that or the other thing and they were changed at her behest. secretary clinton cannot escape responsibility for that. >> megyn: brit, as a practical matter, you've got her writing that i've got serious concerns about the draft when they talked about al-qaeda. i've got serious concerns about the draft. i'm worried this is going to be used against the stat
ambassador susan rice, who you see here, use them in her interviews on five different sunday talk shows less than a week after the terror attacks here. is one example of how the memo changed in a matter of hours. remember, this would be telling the public about what happened that night. these are the before and after versions according to abc news. emails reportedly show the state department objected to naming a specific al qaeda affiliate. and mentioning previous cia warnings about extremists in benghazi. in the end, officials dropped both references from the final version. the state department spokeswoman also added, quote, these don't resolve all of my issues or those of my building's leadership. it's unclear if that leadership included then secretary of state hillary clinton. the attack on september 11th of last year killed our u.s. ambassador to libya christopher stephens. state department official sean smith and two former navy seals tyrone woods and glen doherty. our james rosen live in our d.c. newsroom with more on this. james? >> pretty rough day for jay carney at the white house.
think more of a problem for susan rice who wants to move into the white house and not a confirmable post but it might have been embarrassing. i think it's rather clear she misled people that sunday afterwards. the notion of some huge cover-up or some huge scandal or as one republican senator put it this is worse than watergate. no. it is a terrible and it was a tragedy. >> i think you said ten times as bad as watergate and the black plague. >> maybe combined. >> you put that altogether -- it's not even august, cokie! >> and it's not 2014 yet! >> and the birds are circling. dick cheney is stepping in and energize the democratic base as well. >> i don't think it helps the republicans a lot to have dick cheney stepping in, frankly. but, look. the state department and the white house have screwed up here. they didn't -- they didn't need to do this. >> right. >> and abc's john carl has a report out this morning gone through the e-mails and see that victoria newland changes the talking points and, of course, the white house said nobody changed the talking points and they all came from the inte
into the stunning contradictions between the president of libya and ambassador to the u.n. susan rice when they appeared after the attack on faims the nation. >> this was preplanned, predetermined. >> we do not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned. >> schieffer: we'll tell you some of what career diplomat greg hixes, who was in libya during the attack, told investigators for house oversight committee chairman darrell issa. we'll hear from issa and the chairman of the house intelligence committee mike rogers, and the committee's ranking democrat dutch ruppersberger. on page two, we'll talk about the emergence of gay athletes in professional sports with an all-star panel, including tennis legends billie jean king and martina navratilova. two nfl stars pushing for gay rights will, former baltimore ravens linebacker brendon ayanbadejo and esera tuaolo. plus ted leonsis, owner of three washington sports teams, the wizards, capitals, and mystics. the president of the nfl players' association, canne can domonique foxworth, william rhoden,
days after the attack when ambassador susan rice went on the five sunday morning talk shows with a different story line than the idea that it was a terror attack. that led to this exchange. >> so fast forward, mr. hicks to the sunday talk shows and ambassador susan rice. she blamed this attack on a video. in fact, she did it five different times. what was your reaction to that? >> i was stunned. my jaw dropped. and i was embarrassed. >> as for the other two witnesses, mr. thompson and mr. nordstrom, a lot of the point they made is that a lot of the decision-making about what went down in response to benghazi were made at a much higher level. shep? >> shepard: mike emanuel, thank you. we are just getting started on this coverage. more on the attack in benghazi that left four americans dead. at the center of today's hearings. questions about exactly what happened. when it happened. and how the obama administration responded. how the pentagon official time line figures into all of this. team fox coverage continues. the attack in benghazi, that's next. this mig get bumpy. red ho
and four days before susan rice's tv appearances, a senior state department official e-mailed her superiors to relay that the libyan ambassador -- she had told the libyan ambassador that the attack was conducted by islamic terrorists. the state department would not allow our committees to keep copies of this e-mail when it was reviewed. and i would call on the president to order the state department to release this e-mail so that the american people can see it. >> all right. gloria borger joins us now. gloria, boehner's call shows just how this hearing hasn't really done anything to quell the controversy, and in fact sort of takes forward the claims that this is so political now. >> right. it is political. and the hearings really weren't designed to quell the controversy, they were designed to kind of stir it up, right? and they did exactly that. i mean, you heard for hours yesterday, almost six hours, from a 22-year veteran foreign service officer from the state department describing in stark and emotional and riveting ways in which he felt kind of abandoned by the infrastructure of the un
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